Today, we turn the tables a bit! Usually, I invite guests to have conversations about their areas of expertise, but today’s podcast is a conversation with my long-time friend Gayle Koger in which I share my experiences of Letting Go.

Gayle grew up in Oklahoma. After attending a tiny rural school, Gayle moved into the “big city” when she enrolled in Sand Springs Public Schools, where she and I met in ninth grade. She studied at Oklahoma State University, then married immediately after graduating with a BS in horticulture and moved to Alaska, where she lived for most of her adult life. She went back to school in Alaska to earn associate degrees in nursing and process technology, which allowed her to work in the Alaskan oil fields.

Last September, Gayle returned to Oklahoma to be nearer her parents and her roots. If her voice sounds familiar, you’ll recognize the similarity in her voice to that of her sister Karen Schism, who was my podcast guest in Episode 15.

More important to Gayle than any degree is caring for people. Currently serving as a nurse in a long term care facility, Gayle also runs a VRBO in Soldotna, Alaska, and is mother to two grown daughters.

A temporary guest in my garage apartment, Gayle often joins me in the mornings for coffee and heart-to-hearts; the conversation you’re about to hear is one such chat that we “just happened” to record.

Until next time,